Avoiding Aegospotami

 The Z Man has an interesting piece at Taki's Magazine The Last War for the Neocons .   Since the Peloponnesian War, many have considered wars between two major powers as epic life and death struggles.

The Ukrainian War is seen as this as no one with an above average IQ and some tether to reality sees it as anything but a war between the big Us and Them.

What I got out of Z's article, is what, for better or worse, I get out of most them. It wasn't worth it, and didn't have to happen.

As usual, projecting further, we could do ourselves a big favor and leave NATO and come home.

Aegospotami was the last battle of the Peloponnesian War.

Annie Machon at Consortium News is more right than she knows, there is no reason for NATO

The historical record of NATO post Soviet Union is one of aggression.  Maybe in Putin's heart there is a desire to roll the tanks to Normandy and embark an army on a fleet, but that cannot happen and we have been the troublemakers as Former Brit intel officer, Annie Machon makes clear in an article at Consortium News, Dreaming Up a Reason for NATO's Relevance.

The woman writes with clarity about the continued expansion of the alliance eastward in spite of our undertaking at the time of the demise of the "Evil Empire,"

I refer you back to an article I wrote two years ago after the 25th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. Referencing the work of former senior CIA officer and fellow Sam Adams Associate, Ray McGovern, it made clear that a deal was made between the Soviet Union of the time and the U.S. – and that, in return for the withdrawal of 260,000 Soviet troops from East Germany and the reunification of Germany, NATO would not move one inch further east than the German border.

This is the beginning of all our troubles with Russia.

Please read the article.  The Neutralist does object to her using the word "isolationist."  After all, who wants to be North Korea, thats isolationism.

The Dutch Republic looks into to the soul of Wilders - Exactly what was there problem with Hitler?

Actually, the Netherlanders did not have all that much of a problem with Hitler and would have happily watched  from the sidelines had Dolph not felt that the run through the lowlands to around Maginot's line was a good idea.

The stout hearted Dutch have learned their lesson.  One of their politicians

at a March 2014 election rally in The Hague, when Wilders asked supporters whether they wanted "fewer or more Moroccans in your city and in the Netherlands?"
When the crowd shouted back "Fewer! Fewer!" a smiling Wilders answered: "We're going to organise that."

Well the Dutchies are not going to put up with that.

Wilders's remarks triggered 6,400 complaints, and criticism from within his own party.
Some 56 people and five organisations have registered as victims of the comments and at least 34 witnesses have come forward, judges have said.
Although judges on Friday allowed 40 claims to go ahead, they capped the amount sought as damages at 500 euros, dismissing the 21 other claims.

So complaints against Geert have been "triggered."

One supposes the indigenous population is never considered to have a trigger.

So suppressing the people is what the Dutch do.  Another reason for the US not to be there, or in any of the other Euro countries that are anti-speech.  Let Europe be Europe and say au revoir to NATO.

Oh not, not another of those Hitler won comments.